VIRB° BLOG

Hi guys! Thanks for all your hard work with VIRB. It really is the mutt's nutts.

One thing I would like to see is different skins (and sizes) for the music player on band profiles.

Keep up the good work!

I am interested in hearing where Virb sees itself in the market of which it's working. For example; we all know that MySpace is probably the most popular of social networks worldwide – however a big shift has happened and Facebook has been able to take a massive piece of it's userbase.

Personally, I now have more friends on Facebook than MySpace (not taking Bands and Organisations into account) – and more *active* friends; which I think is more important.

There's Bebo who holds it's dominance in Ireland and Orkut which is mightily popular in Brazil. Following these are things like Wallop and Virb who seem to have tiny userbases in comparison.

With new rumoured Social Network systems from Google and Yahoo! respectively, it'll be good to find out your opinion of the Social Networking sector of the internet, where you think Virb sits and whether your intention is to take a bite out of the likes of MySpace and Facebook – and how you intend to do this.

(yes, I'm a geek – this sort of thing would entertain me no end).

coxy

I'm not actually sure if this is available now (although you have rigged it up on der noob) or not, but if not, i would LOVE to see a nice way of having an XML feed for my friends, tunes, etc.

Again, hope this can't be done already, i will feel like an asshat :(

cheers bigears, looking forward to the next update, keep us posted uh?

Awesome guys! I can't wait to see what you guys have planned for us. I guess the best is gonna get even better!

Honestly I love that you can see all your friends activities, and have the ones who over post announcements and stuff just not show up without deleting them. What I would like to see is a twitter like function ;)

Copy tumblr. Do it even better.

just one thought. I would like a link to see my actual photos in the photo section on the backend. once I upload a photo and want to go back and see what it looks like I have to go to my profile and then to my photos in order to see them. it would be easier just to have a link in the back end to take you straight to the photo the way your friends would see it. anyhoo, i love virb and think it is genius and i cannot wait to see what you guys come up with next.

Things I love:

1.) I love you can easily add songs to your playlist, and that I can pop it open at work and listen to my playlist.

2.) Being able to upload videos, and easily show the videos on my blog (at blogger.)

3.) Being able to feed my flickr photos to my profile

4.) I love how the site looks, I love how easy it is to customize

What I wish I could change:

1.) I wish I could view my friends entire playlists instead of only three songs.

2.) I wish I could feed my blogger blog into my virb blog (like I can with facebook.)

Facebook = the real myspace killer

Shane, it's possible for your friends to customize the amount of songs that appear in their playlist, it's entirely up to them, right now I only have one, but they could put 20, 50, 107 if they want.

I'm still waiting on the ability to save multiple layouts, which is real exciting, the other thing I wanted was square flickr thumbnails and you guys already nailed that, which I appreciate.

I think your biggest asset is your understanding that you can't compete with flickr, or custom blogs like wordpress and blogger and have found great ways to integrate them into virb.

I'm not sure i have any specific things I'm looking for virb to do better, keep up the good work!

um, yeah, FYI, in my dictionary and a few others, "awesomer" IS a word. Don't front.

exs:

awesomer=better 1. Awesomer Noun. Derivative of "Awesome", used to assert ones awesome, or the awesome of an object. No to be confused with the adjective "awesomer".

"I'm awesomer."

2. Awesomer to be even more awesome than the person or thing that is awesome.

"TJ is awesomer then katrina, who is awesome."

amazing, cool, sweet, better, smart

3. Awesomer To be above average in the class of awesome

"but you did so ur even Awesomer"

i am new to virb, i think this stuff is grreaat, i even deleted my myspace profile…

one thing in my mind : the french accent are really bugging this stuff in the blog part.

hope u can fix that in the next weeks…

Is the response to my question about being able to block users #4 or #7, hmmm.

i'd like a mobile version of virb. or possibly just a text thing like facebook has.

also, notifications on new comments on announcements would be nice. as well as replies that others have posted to your comments. otherwise you just have to go back constantly checking.

This is hard to explain but I will take a stab at it. It would be nice if it were easier to post things other than full on blog posts. I am not really sure what I am looking for but I know I rarely want to post a full on blog entry. Most of the time I just want to post a link and a simple description or maybe a photo of what I am currently into. Right now I have these sections on my profile page but the are all done by hand through the custom modules. Maybe what I really need is just some interaction with del.icio.us… maybe more. The Big Noob comes to mind, how you guys have mini blog posts. Not really sure if this is the kind of feedback you wanted.

Oh and the nerd in me thinks that microformats (hcards) would be cool (but you didn't hear that from me).

One thing I really wish Virb had was being able to see if someone is online or not.

One neat thing I've wanted a few times, and which has a few you-perks (beating Last.fm to it, being better yet again than MygawdthisisuglySpace), is letting profile music-listens count for Virbtunes. Maybe that's unreasonable, but I thoroughly love whisking around Virb listening to music, and would like to see that reflected, especially if it might give some exposure to the band.

What I like most about Virb is still the great basic layout and customization options, but actually liking to listen to music on this site (as opposed to many many others) is a close, and probably related, second. Looking forward to the new features!

Nick, you will start seeing Microformats on this site in the nearer future.

I second Dan's motion in full force.

If I am listening to a band on their Virb, I would love to have the listen reflected on my VirbTunes. Its a bummer that bands don't get more exposure from the listens they receive from their fans on the actual fans profile and this would be instant gratification for band and fan.

You guys kill, I can't wait to see it get better, it's hardly even cool that you are able to enlist a slew of improvements this early in the game when its already so good. Hats off virb, hats off indeed! Much love…

This message is getting older than brad smith's mullet: "This page has been prepped, properly anesthetized and is currently undergoing major reconstructive surgery. Believe you me – there will be lots of radical and amazing things here soon."

Fix this shit.

Give them some time… we have to do our part and "catagorize" our own profile first!

Warm things up a bit! Less sparse…. I love the features but have heard a lot of people tell me they feel the site is too sterile feeling/looking.

¡viva virb!

Love the site guys, absolutely!

I second Dan and Trae, that would be cool for the bands…

Virb blows myspace out of the water in every aspect!

Keep up the great work…

Cheers Craig

I feel ignored.

@Reese: Me too. Maybe I asked too much, though.

i have to say, i love virb.com and i think you guys behind it all are doing a great job. can't wait to see what lies ahead as far as making it more "robust". Cheers!

Hi to all the nice and smart Virb People!

I'd love to see Virb translated in other languages, especially French! But I'm a good and patient girl :P

Yet, it would rock if we could type words containing accents (acute, grave, circumflex…) without getting error messages in the comments and modules…

Anyway, thanks for the amazing work you did on Virb, it's such a nice place to be! ;)

It would be cool if the style of my front page could be duplicated on my other pages (photos, blog, etc).

I think Virb is a fantastic site and is definitely a step up from other social networking sites I've used. It just lacks one thing, more people. There should be more press generated about Virb because I am a newshouund and have seen little information about this site. Once people come into Virb and see how easily customizable their page is and how interesting the interface is, they will be hooked.

Long live VIRB!

Sweet

please, please, please, DON'T put the little thing on that says when someone is online or not. it's so highschool feeling and then i would feel kinda guilty about checking my virb at work. :)

thanks guys! keep up the good work!

- Less crappy bands

- Less features that the majority don't care for

- Less Brad

- More innovation

- More activity.. i can here an echo in here

- More concentration on your model.. pretty colors, but no model whatsoever

- More content

More Brad.

Less Will.

I just joined.

This is the most promising social networking site I've seen. The design and interface are great.

It's great to see you guys integrating content from other sites. I'd like to see you even take this further, allowing virb to be used as a "personal aggregator" of sorts. Syndication makes this a snap. Maybe people could add their own syndicated feed, from amazon or delicious or where ever. Or you guys could simply try and integrate more sites (last.fm for virbTunes would be great).

One suggestion though, about the groups:

Instead of having comments on group pages, you should have gone with a more "forum like" set up, with discussion threads and titles.

It's just impossible to really keep up with group discussions the way it's set up now. You should graft on some sort of forum software instead. The makers of wordpress have a really simple but useful tag driven open source discussion board. You guys should check it out.

While its important to let Virb people know what is going on on your other sites, its probably more important to let people on your other sites know whats going on in your Virb profile (if you are trying to use it exclusively, like I am). i want to drive people to Virb, not necessarily drive all the cool people to the crappy sites.

Why just Video and Music in the top links? Why not blogs and photos? Irksome.

blog comments for non-Virb members (!!!) I am not sure if it does this, but it would be nice to set a 'blog publish date' by simply selecting the date. I can knock out three or four and not have to worry for a few days.

better FAQ.

second the no 'online' thing, and also don't let people see if messages have been read. eliminates so much neuroticism (although probably would keep people on virb longer)

its a bit annoying that anytime you want to change the basics, you have to reset your advanced customizations, even though i know it makes sense why that is.

Gotta say I completely disagree with jettie and anyone else who thinks more stuff is better. You have custom modules, you can already add whatever you want by creating them. clean is cool, most myspace profiles have so much crap you can't read them. If I wanted to look at crap filled profiles, I would have stayed on myspace.

If its sparse, its because people are spending more time on their other sites still because the user base isnt here or they have too much time invested. Get the word out, people will switch. Virb rocks.

less will.

peace,

le Dude

I'd love to see OpenID and Microformats support — XFN, hCard, hCalendar and so on. Being able to import/subscribe to my friend lists on other sites (like Twitter) would rock as well!

I posted this elswhere, but I'd really love to see unicode supported here. That's really the only big complaint I have. When importing content from sites (blogs, etc.), as well as in my Recently Played list, I get a lot of ????? as I tend to use a lot of characters from other languages.

But overall, Virb is great! Thanks!

I think the case for integration isn't about integrating from other (crappier) social networking sites, but rather from other "specialized" sites.

Flickr does photos better. delicious does bookmarks better. last.fm does "listening to" better. amazon does book reviews and wish lists better.

The thing that is missing is pulling all this crap into one spot, and finding people with similiar interests. This is what I see as the future of social networking sites.

WHERE ARE THE RSS FEEDS GUYS?!!!!!

What sort of blog doesn't have any syndication at all? Getting that sorted should be the next highest priority for the site – above anything to do with customising yet another music or photos app – the 'networking' part of 'social networking' will just continue to not work very well until something is done about it! :(

I really like Virb (A LOT)….I can't praise it enough to most people I know, but I'll leave it completely if this matter isn't resolved very soon.

Matt

p.s. 'Content Syndication' is something I'd have expected on a Social Networking site from the moment it launched….not an 'add-on' several months later!

is there a way to get Flickr photos to display randomly like you have for friends and orgs and such?

@Matt Robin-

You said: "What sort of blog doesn't have any syndication at all? Getting that sorted should be the next highest priority for the site "

Um, do you mean Virb users' blogs? There is an RSS feed for your Virb blog. If you click "see all" from the main profile page blog module and go to the blog page there's an RSS link over on the right that says "Subscribe to Blog RSS Feed".

Is this what you're talking about? Or do you mean the official Virb blog? If that's what you mean then the feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/virbblog

This has been available for a good long while (almost from the beginning). Matter resolved?

Leesa

Leesa, you're right. There's also Virb Transport, which lets you use just about any content elsewhere.

Great work on the site guys!!! KUDOS!

i've literally just this morning joined virb after hearing about it from dieselsweeties.com – just thought it was worth a look, as myspace is my network of choice (largely due to the fact that it's the easiest way to keep in touch with my friends) but i can see that it's virb that will be my place for checking up on new music.

nice and easy to use, very friendly captions, etc. and suitably small enough that it'll retain/ boost my pretension points, hoho.

I just logged in, first time in a month or two, really. Been away myself and was disappointed when the New Features page reported nothing new. So I came over here and took a peak, and low and behold, an explanation! In short: quit you're bloody mind reading, it's creepy. :)

Side note: Virb creators/admins should have a different colored comment background so we can easily pick them out (I'll submit it as a formal request, too).

Mike

i'm glad virb is still run by real people. myspace has completely lost that feel, and a lot of people have left it because of its invasive advertising.

ignore people who say the site is too "sparse" or "sterile" that's one of the main reasons i like it. one of the main reasons i find myspace and facebook so irritating is because HTML/CSS kewl kidz load up their pages and ignore the fact that the stuff makes my computer freeze. i like the control you've given us in our pages here – enough to make it personal, but not too much to get lost in.

@Daryl

You can't do much as far as HTML/CSS goes with Facebook, but since they opened their doors to 3rd party web apps, people load those on their pages instead. Pick your poison.

I do agree with you that the personal touch that Virb has makes it all the more attractive over other social sites.

it'd be cool if virbTunes showed what you've listened to on your iPod as well as in iTunes

The real issue here is not VIRB° vs. Myspace. It's VIRB° vs. Facebook.

Everyone knows Myspace is on a (probably irreversible) downward trend and is already hopelessly passé despite its huge user base.

By opening up to external developers, however, Facebook is rapidly establishing a market position as both (1) the hype social networking site AND the one with the most features and greatest flexibility.

In my view, despite the social networking sectr's notorious volatility, that position is unlikely to be challenged in the foreseeable future and other upmarket players like VIRB° (which is handicapped by its tiny user base and total lack of media exposure) will simply not find a niche.

Oh and BTW, on a totally unrelated issue, the accented characters thing on VIRB° is probably the bug that most sucks. Surely, given the number of people who have complained about it, it shouldn't be that difficult to fix…

Basically, marketwise it's like this:

Facebook is taking the social part from MySpace. You are taking the music part.

As far as I see it, Facebook does everything imaginable when it comes to social interaction, but does nothing for promoting music and artwork. Virb is the opposite.

= great!

Now go get more media exposure. ;)

Your HTML/module/CSS solution makes an old (ah well, 7 years in the business) internet developers heart warm, just as MySpace's "someone with no clue makes a site in 2 weeks and then someone with a lot of money buys it and uses it for advertisement" solution made me shiver and shake my head wondering what was up with the internet world. :-)

Ok, saying that Virb is the opposite made it sound like you don't have any social interaction, which isn't true at all… it's just not as focused on that. But please go and implement a "direct reply" function for comments in the guestbook/wall/what you call it. :)

I wouldn't say Facebook does nothing for music, it just doesn't do it the same way as Myspace, whereas VIRB° tries to copy Myspace and is probably barking up the wrong tree in doing so.

Instead of copying the Myspace formula of allowing bands to create profiles (which I doubt will work, because I haven't noticed a dramatic swift of that market towards VIRB° so far), Facebook's developer-oriented strategy has already resulted in over 150 music-related applications, some of which are redundant or crappy, but several of which are very good.

This means duplication can be avoided with a focus on interaction with existing sites that already do the job better, such as LastFM; This is merely taking the same approach to pretty well everything as VIRB° has done with pictures (Flickr integration) and blogs (except that because of the accented character issue, the blog feature is useless for anyone not blogging in English).

Using the clever Jukebox application, i have been able to include a functional Juke Box on my Facebook profile without having to upload any music. This is exactly the sort of thing that VIRB° could easily do, but doesn't.

it may be there already but i can't find it..i not however is it possible to have backstage counters for the individual tunes on our profiles…it is useful to know what is being listened to! i think virb is a great site btw and am already making some great connections with people… thankyou! love jo

@Astorg -

Just a quick response that gets irritating to have to repeat: just because another social networking site has a feature, or because you want something or think something should be changed, does not mean that, a) everyone wants exactly what you're asking for, and b) that it's just as easy to implement as you say it is.

Sure, the concept for many things is really simple: "I want to be able to integrate my favorite web apps that I use daily and display my stats from them on my Virb profile." Fantastic. Now go get an API, write the code for your profile so they can interface together, and then submit it to Virb, because as you're saying, it's so easy to implement everything.

It's the people who think that way and want something done NOW who bitch because its implementation got rushed to cater to those who are whining or who are impatient (not saying you in particular) and doesn't work as intended. That, or they're just never happy.

Don't mean to flame here, just gets irritating to hear so often (not just here).

I don't see Virb as strictly vs Facebook, or vs MySpace. When I first came here I saw it in a league of its own largely for the tools it gives artists. Just my 2 cents.

What I would like to see happen to Virb° is focus and portability.

Most social networks seem to do everything for everybody. Virb° has a chance to pursue a more focused audience: progressive trend-setting creatives like musicians, filmmakers, photographers and designers.

But what about all the other friends creatives have who do not fall into this niche?

I do not want to manage multiple social network accounts, so how about instead, Virb° get involved in the movement to build Portable Social Networks. Combine OpenID, XFN and other open formats to put me in control of my content.

I know the Virb° staff is ultra-tech savy, so I know you know what i am referring too. I hope this is the direction your going and I hope that the unique community that is owners and developers of social networks can get together and build a platform for portability and interoperability.

I want a "network of focused network" not a "isolated silos of broad networks" .

@ Mike

Gosh, I'm sorry, I didn't want to appear either impatient or (even less) bitchy. I really like VIRB. But the fact is that it hasn't been getting the media exposure it deserves and, as a result, is probably losing ground, in relative terms, to Facebook.

Of course, no one expects or wants Facebook and VIRB to be the same. As several people here have pointed out, there is a niche for each. But inevitably, there will be a certain amount of overlap, with Facebook AND (that was my main point actually) with other applications. That should be seen as an opportunity, not a pain. A strength, not a weakness.

And, obviously, I'll wait the time it takes until the VIRB people get through with their current development work which I see this discussion thread as a way of helping with constructive suggestions.

As far as actually helping the VIRB team with the actual writing of the code, I'm not a developer. I'm a user and see the site from a user's perspective, which I guess is probably legitimate, isn't it?

@ Astorg

Hey man, I really didn't intend for my response to be all geared towards you: I started getting on a rant (not so much related to what you said) and didn't want to sound like I was chewing you out. You weren't bitchy at all, and I agree that VIRB deserves a lot more exposure and could really use it.

I know you were only offering suggestions (which is great!) so I really didn't mean for my rant to come off as being geared toward you (because you didn't do anything wrong); just more and more people complain now when something isn't how *they* want it *when* they want it (not strictly talking about VIRB); I'm sorry if it sounded like I was aiming it all at you.

It's completely legitimate critiquing VIRB from a user's perspective (again, you weren't really in the wrong), but so many people do say "such and such is so easy to stick in the site/game/application, why isn't it in!?!?!?!?" and it's often those people who don't know what it takes to do something like that who cause frustration because they have nothing to base their statement off of. So your comment got me talking and snowballed into a much broader topic which was no longer intended to be aimed toward you, so again I'm really sorry I wasn't more clear!

Hope things are cool, I didn't mean to come off wrong either. And for the record, I don't work for VIRB or do anything for them nor am I affiliated with them, so if something I say comes off wrong, don't hold it against VIRB. :)

@ Oxa Koba

I had to reread part of your comment to make sure you really did put XFN; don't hear too many mention that! :) I think the only place I've seen it implemented so far (sadly) is the blogrolls on Wordpress sites.

I think you hit on some good points, one of the big ones being "I do not want to manage multiple social network accounts". I have a deviantArt, ModelMayhem, MySpace, Facebook, PureVolume, VIRB, Last.FM, Flickr… the list goes on and on. Sometimes I just wish I could have everything all right in front of me at once… maybe not everything *provided by* one site, but all of these sites *included* within one site. For example, VIRB having Flickr management, Last.FM tracking, a print shop for photography and other artwork. Everything could have the look-and-feel of VIRB, but use the APIs and tools available from sites you're already subscribed to.

Just some thoughts and additions to some the things you mentioned.

@ Mike :

No offense taken. Hope the discussion helps.

i love this place virb. the gui is incredible…<br><br>but as wallyworld as myspace is, it set a standard that most people (at least right now) are sadly okay with… despite all the hacking and bs. <br><br>personally, i refuse to join facadebook… although it should be said i don't view the gap (or even hot topic) as having style… <br><br>the problem i have is trying to get my myspace people to move here, and believe me i've tried. and the ones i'm talking about aren't just some random ms fakes— i mean real life friends of 20 plus years who still travel to meet up. the response to a virb move is usually "it looks cool, but everybody's on here."<br><br>so perhaps virb is just a bit too ahead of the times. or it's hold tight! hard to say. <br><br>or maybe you guys are the Dischord of binary.,, that wouldn't be bad in the least.

Well, great job guys. this site is really a real piece of work. This reminds me of when I built a barn door all by myself. I felt so good when it was finally. done. NOW THE SITE IS ACCOMPLISHED, ONLY TO GET BETTER! But this is only coming from a man who loves his dress shirts. Keep up the great work fellas! This is way better than Myspace. I had one only to keep in touch with some people, but it got all hexic and confusing. I couldn't stand it anymore. It did nothin but pissed me off. This site does the opposite.

Sincerely, Tom Peter

hey, i dont really need an email or anything back so you can skip me on that part, i know yall are busy! but i just wanted to say that i joined facebook as a way to get away from all the JUNK people were loading onto their myspace pages… it takes to long for them to load.. you have to scroll a mile to get to the comment or friend section of some peoples pages.. etc!

and now facebook is letting non-college students get on it and its changing to be more and more like myspace every day! so i joined virb hoping to find a clean cut way to communicate with people, where -yes! you can have some personality and color to your space but i just hope it says simple and easy to work with and yall dont change things up to try and make everyone happy, because those who ARE looking for a place that is simple and uncluttered will come here since everywhere else is. and if Virb changes to be just like myspace and facebook why would people choose it over the others if they are the same? im just saying… my vote is to leave things as easy and neat as possible….without all this extra crap that isnt necessary anyways..

thanks!:) leslie.

I'm always late to the scene, but just discovered last.fm. Knowing that you guys are big on integrating (We all appreciate that), why not add last.fm to your flash trusted sites allowing for the flash widget they have released?

Right know I have it working with their image charts, but that's hardly efficient. I does seem the current last.fm widget could be considered distracting, unconfigurable. Maybe something to keep an eye on.

Actually, disregard my last input. After looking at the last.fm widget more closely I actually prefer there old style image charts.

Regards, Marius

If MySpace released an updated, design oriented version of their site, would Virb still have a unique edge in the market? I'm sure it's only time before the megalith starts focusing on that, especially since Facebook is basically a cleaner version of MS.

Virb is by far a much better service, but the reason why I haven't switched yet is because my colleagues and I keep track of fans, as well as friends. It's interesting that "big names", such as artists, joined the social networking circle later in the game, flocking to where they could connect to users. Now it seems that users will flock to, and stay, where the artists and big names are. It's not loyalty to MySpace, so much as it is the larger creative and popular nebula that it is beyond the service.

I was brought to this blog because I was researching MySpace competitors. If necessary, my friends will set up more than one site to connect to fans, but so far, have not found another thriving circle (other than FaceBook, which is in itself not worth a new page). Then, I clicked on a link that brought me here. Oh how I wish Virb would kill MySpace and become the new leader!

I'm the user that doesn't care about keeping track of old college buddies. I want to be where people are, where things are happening. It doesn't seem like anything is "happening" here. Where are the Virb sponsored events? concerts? contests? film festivals? celebrity "mojo"? How about creative marketing? What about local gatherings, like what Flickr and Wordpress does to connect with users? Where is the "power-to-the-people/stick it to the man" attitude of YouTube? Virb needs that type of creative, community driven, competitive energy.

Users want to feel confident that Virb will be a worthwhile investment. The other thing is that people are "switching", which is a hassle in of itself, especially when there are so many players in the market already. Virb needs to make it easier (and compelling) for MySpacers to switch.

There are a lot of market wars happening online now — blogosphere, online video, social networking…

I hope to see Virb kill the rest.

I second the request for more a more tweak-able music player for band profiles. Something smaller for sure – maybe even something collapsible?

Keep up the good work though!

First up, I just want to state that I'm a virb virgin (signed up last night) and haven't played with what is already available in the way of music on virb. I have no idea of the technical issues with this, but: I use iTunes for all my music…<fade to shimmering dream sequence>… Wouldn't it be great if there was a thingy on virb that captured the info from what your playing in iTunes, including Song/podcast title, Artist, Album, and even a snapshot of the Album Cover and display it on your profile with all the customisation options that we are *ahem* accustomed to at virb?

Hello from Santa Barbara CA I am new at this blob thing or is blerb? what ever I have no friends can you help me? I have some great tunes and a new video. what do I do now? virb me jena

I love everything about VIRB, and from what you said, it seems it will only get better. I can't wait till Virb owns the Internet…then, you guys can shoot for world domination. :)

In all seriousness, I love VIRB. Love it…I'm sure whatever ideas you conjure up will be awesome.

justin

What initially attracted me to Virb:

1.Gorgeous, uncluttered GUI. 2. Members with serious interests in music, photography, film, etc.

However, I'm still not exactly sure what Virb really is yet.

Do you really want to be another myspace or facebook? I sure hope to hell not. I like the idea of keeping it a bit more focused. Let the others use the kitchen sink approach ( and the god awful clutter involved).

Promoting networking between professionals and hobbyists in the various media you support on the site would be dreamy.

Whatever you do, just make sure there are no robots trying to sell me ringtones.

I know you guys are hard at work but you posted this blog post in July. You promised a grandiose new site by September. It's almost February of 2008. Now really, when will we see Virb 2.0?

Wanting and waiting,

Zack